TALK[1] Delivered
AT THE CONFERENCE ON INTERAMERICAN STUDENT PROJECTS
by Mon. Ivan Illich, (Cuernavaca[2]) April 20,
1968.
In the
conversations which I have had today, I was impressed by two things, and I want
to state them before I launch into my prepared talk.
I was
impressed by your insight that the motivation of US volunteers overseas springs
mostly from very alienated feelings and concepts. I was equally impressed, by
what I interpret as a step forward among would be volunteers like you: openness
to the idea that the only thing you can legitimately volunteer for in Latin
America might be voluntary powerlessness, voluntary presence as receivers, as
such, as hopefully beloved or adopted ones without any way of returning the
gift.
I was
equally impressed by the hypocrisy of most of you: by the hypocrisy of the
atmosphere prevailing here. I say this as a brother speaking to brothers and
sisters. I say it against many resistances within me; but it must be said. Your
very insight, your very openness to evaluations of past programs make you
hypocrites because you ‹ or at least most of you ‹ are decided to spend this
next summer in Mexico, and therefore, you are unwilling to go far enough in
your reappraisal of your program. You close your eyes because you want to go
ahead and could not do so if you looked at some facts.
It is quite
possible that this hypocrisy be unconscious in most of you not in all, of this I am very certain.
Intellectually, you are ready to see that the motivations which could
legitimate volunteer action overseas in 1963[3] cannot be
invoked for the same action in 1968/69. "Mission‹vacations" among
poor Mexicans were ³the thing² to do for well off US students earlier in this
decade : sentimental concern for newly‹discovered poverty south of the border
combined with total blindness to much worse poverty at home justified such
benevolent excursions. Intellectual insight into the difficulties of fruitful
volunteer action had not sobered the spirit of Peace Corps, Papal and
Self‹Styled Volunteers.
Today, the
existence of organizations like yours is offensive to Mexico. I wanted to make
this statement in order to explain why I feel sick about it all and in order to
make you aware that good intentions have not much to do with what we are
discussing here. To hell with good intentions. This is a theological statement.
You will not help anybody by your good intentions. There is an Irish saying
that the road to hell is paved with good intentions: this sums up the same
theological insight.
I would
prepare my statement differently, particularly in style, had I had those five
hours of conversation with you. I would have made it loss harsh and even more
definitive. I cannot change now because my control of English is not good
enough to keep my statement understandable if I change it while reading it.
Before I
prepared this statement, I wanted to say something more. In the course of this
day I came to believe in the survival of CIASP. On coming here I considered it
my duty to continue my efforts toward getting you. out of business. I now see
that too much money, too many vested interests, too many illusions back CIASP
to allow this organization to disappear. Therefore, we have to ask ourselves:
what to do with CIASP ‹since it cannot die.
I have
reached the conclusion that, quite conceivably, there are a few people who
could profit from the experience of the past years of CIASP and develop some
kind of educational agency which makes it possible for North American students
to live in Mexico. By live, I mean ³Live² with a capital "L"; live in
the biblical sense in Mexico for a month, fully aware of the limitations of
such an experience, of the danger of narcissistic illusions in such a short
encounter and yet to LIVE there.
I have no
evidence that CIASP as a whole should or could serve this purpose in the future
because it might be too much marked by the sins of its origin, which are not
recognized as sins by you, but rather considered as simple shortcomings. I do
not think that real conversion is possible unless one says: "I was not
mistaken, I was wrong. I let myself be led into the organization and to the
first structure of CIASP by my deep rooted pride, belief in my superiority, my
conviction that I had something to give." I do not believe that such
conversion is possible for a whole organization, but I do believe that it is
possible for a few individuals.
Some of you
might still profit from the past experience in and through CIASP. The very
frustration and humiliation which participation in CIASP programs might have
meant for you, could lead you to new awareness: the awareness that even North
Americans can receive the gift of hospitality without the slightest ability to
pay for it; the awareness that for some gifts one cannot even say "thank
you."
Now to my
prepared statement.
Ladies and
Gentlemen:
For the past
six years I have become known for my increasing opposition to the presence of
any and all North American "do‹gooders" in Latin America. I am sure
you know of my present efforts to obtain the voluntary withdrawal of all North
American volunteer armies from Latin America ‹ missionaries, Peace Corps
members and groups like yours, A "division" organized for the
benevolent invasion of Mexico. You were aware of these things when you invited
me ‹ of all people‹ to be the main speaker of you annual convention[4]. This is
amazing! I can only conclude that your invitation means one of at least three
things:
Some among
you might have reached the conclusion that CIASP should either dissolve altogether, or take the
promotion of voluntary aid to the Mexican poor out of it institutional purpose.
Therefore you might have invited me here to help the others reach this same
decision.
You might
also have invited me because you want to learn how to deal with people who
think the way I do ‹ how to dispute with them successfully, and how to refute
them. It has now become quite common to invite Black Power spokesmen to address
Lions Clubs. A "dove" must always be included in a public dispute
organized to increase U.S. belligerence.
And finally,
you might have invited me here hoping that you would be able to agree with most
of what I say, and then go ahead in good faith and work this summer in Mexican
villages. This last possibility on1y open to those who do not listen, or who
cannot understand me.
I did not
come here to argue. I am here to tell you, if possible to convince you, and
hopefully, to stop you, from pretentiously imposing yourselves on Mexicans.
I do have
deep faith in the enormous good will of the U.S. volunteer. However, his good
faith can usually be explained only by an abysmal lack of intuitive delicacy,
By definition, you cannot help being ultimately vacationing salesmen for the
middleclass "American way of Life," since that is really the only
life you know.
A group like
this could not have developed unless a mood in the United States had supported
it ‹ the belief that any true American must share Gods blessings with his
poorer fellow men[5]. The ideas
that every American has something to give, and at all times may, can and should
give it, explains why it occurred to students that they could help Mexican
peasants "developing" by spending a few months in their villages.
Of course,
this surprising conviction was supported by members of a Missionary order, who
would have no reason to exist unless they had the same conviction except a much
stronger one. It is now high time to cure yourselves of this. You, like the
values you carry, are the products of an American society of achievers and
consumers with its two party system, its universal schooling, and its Family
car affluency. You are ultimately ‹consciously or unconsciously salesmen for a
delusive ballet in the ideals of democracy, equal opportunity and free
enterprise among people who haven't the possibility of profiting from these.
Next to
money and guns, the third largest North American export is the U.S. idealist,
who turns up in every theatre of the world: the teacher, the volunteer ,the
missioner, the community organizer, the economic developer, and the vacationing
do‹gooder. Ideally, these people define their role as service. Actually, they
frequently wind up alleviating the carnage done by money and weapons, or
seducing the "underdeveloped" to the benefits of the world of
affluence and achievement. Perhaps this is the moment to instead bring home to
the people of the U.S. the knowledge that the way of life they have chosen
simply is not alive enough to be shared.
By now it
should be evident to all America that the U.S. is engaged in a tremendous
struggle to survive. The U.S cannot survive if the rest of the world is not
convinced that here we have Heaven on Earth. The survival of the U.S. depends
on the acceptance by all so called "free" men that the U.S. middle
class as "made it". The U.S. way of life has become a religion which
must be accepted by all those who do not want to die by the sword ‹ or napalm.
All over the globe the U.S. is fighting to protect and develop at least a
minority who consumes what the U.S. majority can afford. Such is the purpose of
the Alliance for Progress of the middle classes which the U.S. signed with
Latin America some years ago. But increasingly this commercial alliance must be
protected by weapons which allow the minority who can "make it" to
protect their acquisitions and achievements€
But weapons
are not enough to permit minority rule. The marginal masses become rambunctious
unless they are given a "Creed" or belief which explains the status
quo. This task is given to "the U.S. volunteer ‹ whether he be a member of
CIASP or a worker in the so called Pacification Programs" in Viet Nam.
The United
States is currently engaged in a three‹front struggle to affirm its ideals of
acquisitive and achievement oriented "Democracy". I say
"three" fronts, because three great areas of the world are
challenging the validity of a political and social system which makes the rich
ever richer, and the poor increasingly marginal to that system.
In Asia, the
U.S. is threatened by an established power
‹ China. The U.S. opposes China with three weapons: the tiny Asian elites who
could not have it any better than in an alliance with the United States; a huge
war machine to stop the Chinese from "taking over"‹ as it is usually
put in this country, and; forcible re-education of the so called "pacified
peoples". All three of these efforts seem to be failing.
In Chicago,
poverty funds, the police force and preachers seem to be no more successful in
their efforts to check the unwillingness of the black community to wait for
graceful integration into the system.
And finally,
in Latin America the Alliance for Progress has been quite successful in
increasing the number of people who could not be better off ‹ meaning the tiny,
middleclass elites‹ and has created ideal conditions for military
dictatorships. The dictators were formerly at the service of the plantation
owners, but now they protect the new industrial complexes. And finally, you
come to help the underdog accept his destiny within the process!
All you will
do in a Mexican village is create disorder. At best, you can try to convince
Mexican girls that they should marry a young: man who is self made, rich, a
consumer and as disrespectful of tradition as one of you. At worst, in your
community development spirit you might create just enough problems to get someone
shot after your vacation ends and you rush back to your middle class
neighborhoods where your friends make jokes about spics and
"wetbacks"...
You start on
your task without any training. Even the Peace Corps spends around $l0, 000 on
each corpsman to help him to adapt to his new environment and to guard him
against culture shock. How odd that nobody ever thought about spending money to
educate poor Mexicans in order to prevent them from the culture‹shock of
meeting you!
In fact, you
cannot even meet the majority which you pretend to serve in Latin America‹ even
if you could speak their language, which most of you cannot. You can only
dialogue with those like you ‹ Latin American imitations of the North American
middle class. There is no way for you to really meet with the underprivileged,
since there is no common ground whatsoever for you to meet on.
Let me
explain this statement, and also let me explain why most Latin Americans with
whom you might be able to communicate would disagree with me.
Suppose you
went to a U.S. ghetto this summer and tried to help the poor there "help
themse1ves. Very soon you would be either spit upon or laughed at. People
offended by your pretentiousness would hit or spit. People who understand that
your own bad consciences rush you to this gesture would laugh condescendingly.
Soon you would be made aware of your irrelevance among the poor, of your status
as middle class college students on a summer assignment. You would be
roundly rejected, no matter if your skin is white ‹ as most of your faces here
are ‹ or brown or black, as a few exceptions who got in here somehow.
Your reports
about your work in Mexico, which you so kindly sent me, exude self complacency.
Your reports on past summers prove that you are not even capable of
understanding that your do‹gooding in a Mexican village is even less relevant
than it would be in a U.S. ghetto. Not only is there a gulf between what you
have and what others have which is much greater than the one existing between
you and the poor in your own country, but there is also a gulf between what you
feel and what the Mexican people feel that is in comparably greater. This gulf
is so great that in a Mexican village you, as White Americans (or cultural
white Americans) can, and so, imagine yourselves exactly the way a white
preacher saw himself when he offered his
life preaching to the black slaves on a plantation in Alabama. The fact
that you live in huts and eat tortillas for a few weeks render your well
intentioned group only a bit more picturesque.
The only
people with whom you can hope to communicate with are sons of the middle class.
And here please remember that I said "some"‹ by which I mean a tiny
elite in Latin America. You come from a country which industrialized early, and
which succeeded in incorporating the great majority of its citizens into the
middle classes. It is no social distinction in the U.S. to have graduated from
the second year of college. Indeed, most Americans now do. Anybody in this
country who did. not finish high school is considered underprivileged.
In Latin
America the situation is quite different. 75% of all people drop out of school
before they reach the sixth grade of grammar school. Thus, people who have
finished high school are members of a tiny minority. Then, a minority of that
minority goes on for university training. It is only among these people that
you will find your educational equals.
At the same
time, a middle class in the United States is the majority. In Mexico, it is a
tiny elite. Seven years ago your country began and financed a so called
"Alliance for Progress". This was an ³Alliance² for the ³Progress² of
the middle class elites. Now, it is among the members of this middle class that
you will find a few people who are willing to waste their time with you. And
they are overwhelmingly those "nice kids" who would also like to
soothe their troubled consciences by "doing something nice for the
promotion of the poor Indians". Of course, when you and your middle class
Mexican counterparts meet you will be told that you are doing something
valuable, that you are "sacrificing" to help others.
And it will
be the foreign priest who will especially confirm your self image for you.
After all, his livelihood and sense of purpose depends on his firm belief in a
year round mission which is of the same type as your summer vacation mission.
There exists
the argument that some returned volunteer have gained insight into the damage
they have done to others and have become maturer people. Yet, it is less
frequently stated that most of then are ridiculously proud of their ³summer
sacrifices². Perhaps there is also something to the argument that young men
should be promiscuous for awhile in order to find out that sexual love is most
beautiful in a monogamous relationship. Or that the best way to leave LSD alone
is to try it for awhile ‹ or even that the best way of understanding that your
help in the ghetto is neither needed nor wanted is to try, and fail. I do not
agree with this argument. The damage which volunteers do willy‹nilly is too
high a price for the belated insight that they shouldn't have been volunteers
in the first place.
Of course,
for those of you who go in the full conscience that you are simply utilizing an
organization to go on an expense paid vacation ‹ and I'm sure that those are
few in number ‹ you will not understand such reasoning, since your first self
admitted purpose is fraudulent,
If you have
any sense of responsibility, at all, stay with your riots here at home. Work
for the coming elections. McCarthy might lose. but certainly by campaigning for
him you will know what you are doing, why you are doing it, and how to
communicate with those to whom you speak. And you will know when you fail. If
you insist on working with the poor, if this is your vocation, then at least
work among the poor who can tell you to go to hell. It is incredibly unfair for
you to impose yourselves on a village where you are so linguistically deaf and
dumb that you don t even understand what you are doing, or what people think of
you. And it is profoundly damaging to yourselves, when you define, something
that you want to do as "good" a "sacrifice" and
"help".
I am here to
suggest that you voluntarily renounce exercising the power which being an
American gives you. I am here to entreat you to freely, consciously and humbly
give up the legal right you have to impose your benevolence on Mexico. I am
here to challenge you to recognize your inability, your powerlessness and your
incapacity to do the ³good² which you intended to do.
I am here to
entreat you to use your money, your status and your education to travel in
Latin America. Come to look, come to climb our mountains, to enjoy our flowers.
Come to study. But do not come to help.
March 22,
1968
Dear
Conference Applicant,
Welcome aboard! You're in for an
exciting and profitable trip!
In the
enclosed packet you will find the latest details on the upcoming CIASP Regional
Conference. Included is the finalized schedule for the conference, a list of
the seminar and workshop topics, a short paper by Joe Schneider giving his
ideas on the purpose and development of the conference, a brief background of
the speakers, registration forms, and as an extra bonus, a map to explain how
to get to the conference,. We ask you to look these things over carefully.
Now for the details:
SPEAKERS: Are
definitely topnotch. Drs. John Kennedy and Samuel Shapiro from Notre Dame, Dr.
Robert Evans of the Advisory Council on InterAmerican Affairs, and Rev. William
Wipfler of the National Council of Churches are just a few. Perhaps the most
controversial figures will be Monsignor Ivan Illich of the Center of
Intercultural Documentation in Mexico and Father Blase Bonpane of recent
Guatemalan fame.
SCHEDULE:
Will be full, as you can see from the enclosed schedule.
In general
the first day's talks and seminars will be aimed at an understanding of the
current situation in Latin America, Sunday's workshops will be focusing on what
our attitudes and response should be as committed students in the midst of
crisis all around us.Each of the workshops will have student leader and one of
the speakers as resource people. Saturday's seminars will be led by one of the
speakers.
LOCATION: Is
at St. Mary's of the Lake Seminary in Niles, Illinois (just outside of
Chicago), The students have offered us dormitory space for about 170 people
WHO'S
INVITED? All CIASPers, past and present. School leaders are again asked to
notify alumni in their areas and to invite them. Naturally group advisors are
included and other interested faculty members. And, because we want the
conference to be as much of a DIALOG and TOTALIMMERSION EXPERIENCE as possible,
we would ask you to invite Latin American students from your campuses to join
us. This will not only give the new students some
firsthand
contact with the Latin mind, but also greatly enrich ourdiscussions with more
of an ambiente latino
COST: Will be
$10 per applicant, This will include room, board, and all other incidental
materials (believe us, this is the lowest price we could manage). Latin
American foreign students will come (free) as guests of the conference (this is
to show how important we feel they are), but, of course, any donation toward
room and board will be graciously accepted!
Observers (faculty
members and other interested students) are welcome at the conference for an
admission price of $3 This entitles them to hear all the major talks (excludes
seminars and workshops). Meals will be $1 each.
ACCOMODATIONS:
There will be room for advisors to stay in the dormitories with the students if
they wish (nuns may stay at the convent). Reservations may be made at a nearby
motel for $8 per night if preferred.
PUBLICITY You
are encouraged to advertize the conference on your respective campuses, We want
the conference to be an educational service to people in the area and hope to
attract as many as possible. We will be sending publicity materials to each
school, but remember that the most effective advertizing is you.
Talk up the
conference, pass around the schedule, and invite your friends.
REGISTRATION:
All registration for the conference participants must be done in advance of the
conference. Registration includes indication of the seminar and workshop you
would like to attend and payment of the $10 fee, The absolute deadline for
registration is Wednesday April 3 (if necessary, send special delivery).
This is so paper relevant to your particular seminar can be sent to you before
you go home for the Easter break. Since the seminars demand in indepth study of
the problem, this advance preparation is essential,, The early registration
will also give us a chance to make the final preparations as exactly as
possible,
A
registration blank is included on the last page of this packet, Foreign
students are asked to register as participants, indictating preferred seminars,
etc, but, of course, no money is necessary. Please register individually and as
soon as possible, (We are providing an envelope for this purpose.)
Observers may
register in advance ($3) but may also register at the door. Because we want to
keep the groups small, seminars and workshops will be open only to conference
participants.
PREPARATION:
Read as much as you can on Latin America, especially articles by the conference
speakers, Talk over someof the current happenings in Latin America and see if
you can¹t find parallels in the Unites States, Remember that, the more you
bring to the conference, the more you can share. Good luck in your, reading!
Hoping to see
all of you at the conference; we guarantee it will be more than worth it.
Coordinating
Committee,
Joe Schneider, Terry Smith, Gen
Czepiel, Bill Larme
ABOUT THE
SPEAKERS
(A more
complete list of the credentials of the speakers and seminar leaders will be
published at a later date)
Bonpane, Rev.
Blase, M.M. Catholic missioner to Guatemala, Holds Masters Degree in Latin
American Affairs from Georgetown University, Worked with Latin American
university students for one year in Guatemala City.
Evans, Dr,,
Robert Advisory Council on InterAmerican Affairs National Council of Churches
of Christ in the USA
Illich, Msgr.
Ivan Director, Center for Intercultural Development (CIDOC) in Cuernavaca,
Mexico, Vicar-General, Diocese of Cuernavaca
Kennedy, Dr.
John Director, Program of Latin American Studies, University of Notre Dame,
Indiana
Lucriccio, Toni Theology student,
Sacred Heart Seminary, Plymouth, Michigan. Lawyer before entering the seminary,
now active in civil rights and black power movements in Detroit,,
Mamalakis, Mareos Professor of
Economics, University of Wisconsin, Milwaukee
Monasterio,
Dr, Xavier 0. Instructor, Department of Philosophy, University of Dayton, Ohio
Saxe-Fernandez,
John Instructor, Department of Sociology, Hofstra University, Hempsted, New
York.
Shapiro, Dr.
Samuel Associate Professor, Department of History, University of Notre Dame,
Indiana, Acting third year as editor of CICOP Conference Report Author of
Invisible Latin America.
Templin,
Ralph T. Professor Emeritus of Sociology, Central State University,
Wilberforce, Ohio. Editor of the Journal of Human Relations Director of School
of the Living, Suffern, New York, and School of Community Living, Yellow
Springs, Ohio, Author of Democracy and Nonviolence,
Wipfler,
Rev,, William L, Assistant Director of the Latin American Department of the
National Council of Churches Division of Overseas Ministry Episcopalian priest,
eight years' experience in the Dominican Republic; two years in Costa Rica.
Author of The Churches of the Dominican Republic.
[1] This talk was delivered on the evening of Saturday April 20 at St. Mary¹s Lake of the Woods Seminary in Niles (Chicago) Illinois. Monsignor Illich was invited to make a presentation to the American Midwest Regional Meeting of CIASP (The Conference on Interamerican Student Projects). The Conference had an especially strong line-up of speakers and it was opened to all other regions of CIASP (all US regions and Canada) as well as the public.
This text version of the speech was scanned from an original mimeograph distributed to Conference participants on the following day. The document was typed version of Monsignor Illich¹s speech. This original document was not edited and this document is reflects the exact wording and punctuation used by Illich.
I have an audio tape of this talk and it did not stray from the remarks represented in this scanned version.
[2] Monsignor Illich had prepared a speech in Cuernavaca before travelling to Chicago; he added introductory remarks after an afternoon attending sessions and meeting with CIASP members. He drafted a quick introduction to the original presentation and modified the written presentation. The entire speech is usually cited as being given in Cuernavaca Mexico...but it was delivered in Chicago on April 20.
[3] By all accounts, CIASP was formally established in Mexico City in 1963 with strong support from Father Placido Reitmeier and the Maryknoll Order. It emerged out of California group called Amigos Anonymous. CIASP was established as a university-student directed organization; 4 regional organizations in the United States elected directors and a national board was elected by these regions.
The Canadian wing of CIASP developed parallel to the American organization and shared resources with the American organization. The Canadian group first appeared at St. Michael¹s College at the University of Toronto. Canadian CIASP used some of the American Training Material and also provided an orientation for CIASP volunteers in Mexico City. This was was organized by the Mexican Office of CIASP. In 1967, A Canadian was the director of the Mexican Office.
Canadian members of CIASP were observers at the conference on April 20, 1968. Illich later travelled to Toronto several times and had contact with CIASP members during visits to St. Michael¹s College. Several of his visits to Toronto was to be interviewed on CBC. These tapes are still available for purchase from CBC radio.
[4] CIASP made contact with Monsignor Illich in Cuernavaca Mexico. Several members of CIASP leadership visited his institute (CIDOC) in Cuernavaca for informal meetings and to attend some of the sessions that were organized there in 1967. The major contact was with Mr. Larry Grimes who was the institute¹s registrar (Šhe used the pseudonym Esperanza Godot) on the institute literature.
[5] Many of the members of CIASP were seminarians, but in many ways the organization was much more secular than it has been described by Illich. I would agree that the group could be accused of being colonialist, but the religious overtones suggested by Illich are not a fair description of either the Canadian organization nor the American CIASP.